[smc-discuss] Rails Girls Summer of Code

Fri May 31 08:44:25 PDT 2013

1. Why do you think programming is a male oriented area when most of
the computer science courses have more girls than boys?

Yes, I am a computer science student and 2/3 of my classmates are
girls.But that doesn't man that they are interested in computer
science . Their family want to teach their childs an engineering
branch , and they chose computer science because they think it is best
branch for girls . Once our teacher asked " how many of you chose
computer science because your personal interest" , just one hand
raised from girls side !!!!

2. Also don't you see good number of women in IT companies?
yes, It is almost balanced in india .(probably because above case).
But it is not case in other countries . and most the female consider
it as a job, not a passion .
http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/5780/why-are-there-so-few-female-programmers

3. Doesn't that mean some thing is missing from Free Software
communities that women don't feel welcome?

They have equal opportunity , AFAIK there is nothing  which prevent
from contribution

4.How did you come to the conclusion that there is no descrimination
when the numbers speak otherwise?
Number is not everything :-)

5. Did you ever ask any women why they don't contribute before
declaring there is no descrimination?
None of my female classmates are familiar with opensource

6.Start with counting the number of boys and girls in your class. Then
ask how many of them have a computer at home or have a laptop, then
how many of them have a good internet/broadband connection. Let's
analyse the numbers and come to some conclusions. It is a serious
issue, are you ready?

Yes, but this is summer vacation , but most of them don't want to
learn outside their text book, They score 90+ % in computer science,
they have pcwith broad band internet connection    but they need
external help to install s/w even in windows

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/programming-and-development/it-gender-gap-where-are-the-female-programmers/2386
My answers may  be wrong, but it is true from my current info

On 5/31/13, Razee Marikar <razeetg at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Praveen,
>
> I think it will be a good idea to have a proper survey on this. Not a quick
> survey, but a well thought of survey with people responding properly to it.
> It will give a lot of good insights to why there aren't more women in the
> computing industry. I know a few cases where marriage/husband have become
> the reason for women not to be able to pursue their computing careers. And
> this is not limited to free(dom) software development. I know for certain
> that there are companies that relax the entry and interview criterion for
> women (unofficially) and yet have fewer women in engineering posts. While I
> believe there is some truth to women not preferring software jobs, I think
> there is something else in a country like India which is very different from
> the US and Europe. Also it is a truth that many a times, especially in an
> open environment like what we have in free software development, women feel
> unwelcome due to the group of guys having a lot of guy talk along
>  with the programming.
>
> According to a Forbes article, women are simply not interested in STEM
> (Science Technology Engineering and Mathematics) careers. But we know by now
> that its simply not true in India. There are more women than men in most
> engineering colleges (at least when I was in college, for Computer and IT
> courses). Having a survey could be a first step in finding out why this is
> so. In my opinion, there haven't been any proper unbiased studies in India.
> Doing one might be a good idea. I would like to help any way I can if you
> were talking seriously about the survey. Although I'm not free for till end
> of June (and probably even after that), I would like to do whatever I can.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Razee Marikar
>
> Home page: http://razee.marikar.co.in
> “Even a fool knows we can't reach the stars, but thatdoesn't stop the wise
> man from trying”
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Praveen A <pravi.a at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion list of Swathanthra Malayalam Computing
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> Sent: Friday, 31 May 2013, 18:34
> Subject: Re: [smc-discuss] Rails Girls Summer of Code
>
>
>
> Why do you think programming is a male oriented area when most of the
> computer science courses have more girls than boys? Also don't you see good
> number of women in IT companies? Doesn't that mean some thing is missing
> from Free Software communities that women don't feel welcome? How did you
> come to the conclusion that there is no descrimination when the numbers
> speak otherwise? Checkout the commits to smc or silpa repos and tell me how
> many women are committing? Did you ever ask any women why they don't
> contribute before declaring there is no descrimination? It is a serious
> thing when you don't feel anything when a huge portion of the programmers
> are kept out from Free Software and when efforts are made to reach out to
> them, you see it as a problem. Let's start a survey if you are interested
> from your campus itself. Start with counting the number of boys and girls in
> your class. Then ask how many of them have a computer at home or have a
> laptop, then
>  how many of them have a good internet/broadband connection. Let's analyse
> the numbers and come to some conclusions. It is a serious issue, are you
> ready?
> On May 31, 2013 6:17 PM, "aboobacker sidheeque mk" <aboobackervyd at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>I don't know the exact reason, But usually programming is considerd as
>>male dominated field , Because they are not interested in programming
>>(not a generalization, even the first programmer was a female)
>>
>>Even then both girls and boys have equal opportunity in opensource,
>>there is no gender descrimination in it .
>>
>>So why a female only coding challeng?
>>
>>Don't take it seriously, I asked it just because ' we(boys) can't
>> participate '
>>
>>On 5/31/13, Praveen A <pravi.a at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Do you see gender descrimination when there are ...
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