[smc-discuss] [X-post] [OT] Research publications

[Kevin Martin]

I do not know much about academic publishing. Students from my college
(including me) have papers catalogued at IEEE Xplore. Most students
consider getting their paper listed there as an achievement. The procedure
is somewhat like this (student perspective):

1. You write a paper.

2. You send your paper for being presented at an IEEE conference.

3. If your paper falls within the theme of the conference (eg :
Humanitarian technology, communications e.t.c), a team of professional
IEEEians review your paper.

4. The paper is assigned a status like "strongly accepted", "weakly
accepted", "strongly rejected" or "weakly rejected". If the paper is
accepted (strongly or weakly), the reviewers would have suggested changes
to improve the quality of the paper (and a rating out of 5.0 is given, and
there are separate points for originality of the work, quality of writeup,
results, relevance e.t.c).

5. Once you make the suggested changes (optional, but strongly recommended)
you upload a camera ready paper and sign an authorization letter for IEEE.

6. You are invited to present the paper at the concerned conference. Once
presented, the paper will be catalogued at IEEE Xplore as part of the
proceedings of that conference, and students mention this on their resume.

As you can see, there is a pretty complicated process you have to go
through if your paper is to be accepted. And a lot of the student papers do
get rejected (poor formatting, not original work).
I'm not familiar with open access journals, but I believe there will be
nothing preventing a low quality paper from being published. IEEE screening
makes sure that the papers are of a minimum standard (at least properly
formatted, even if irrelevant and without much results). Peer review once
published is an option, but again, there is no "entry barrier". So open
access journals with some sort of screening up front would appeal more to
students (and professionals) I guess. Again, I do not know if any currently
existing open access journals already screen the papers.

IEEE asks you to pay 13$ per paper even if you are the author! I could not
download my own paper to show it to my father. Yes, I could have simply
shown him the one that I already had on my local disk. But I thought it
would be cool to download it from IEEE Xplore itself. IEEE doesn't allow
this. This is a pity considering that IEEE student members have to pay a
"reduced" rate of at least 7000 rs to register for the conference.
Professional members have to pay double the amount,

2014-11-03 19:22 GMT+05:30 Pirate Praveen <praveen at onenetbeyond.org>:

> On Monday 03 November 2014 12:22 PM, sooraj kenoth wrote:
> > സുഹൃത്തുക്കളെ,
> > കഴിഞ്ഞ കുറച്ചു ദിവസമായി കേള്‍ക്കുന്ന ഒരു കാര്യമാണ് Research
> > publications എന്നത് വളരെ ചൂഷണം നടക്കുന്ന ഒരു സ്ഥലമാണ്, സ്വന്തം
> > പോക്കറ്റിലേയോ പൊതുഖജനാവിലേയോ പണം മുടക്കി പ്രസിദ്ധീകരിക്കുന്ന ഗവേഷണ
> > പ്രബദ്ധങ്ങള്‍ പ്രസാധകര്‍ക്ക് വെറുതെ തീറെഴുതികൊടുക്കുന്ന പരിപാടിയാണ്
> > എന്നൊക്കെ. പലയിടത്തും ഓടി നടന്ന് വായിച്ചിട്ടും ഇതിനെ കുറിച്ച് ഒന്നും
> > മനസ്സിലാവുന്നില്ല. ഇതിനെ കുറിച്ച് നിങ്ങള്‍ക്കറിയാവുന്ന വിവരങ്ങള്‍
> > പങ്കുവെക്കാമോ?
> >
> > നല്ലൊരു ജോലികിട്ടണമെങ്കിലോ തുടര്‍പഠനത്തിന് പോകണമെങ്കിലോ നല്ല impact
> > factor ഉള്ള Journals-ല്‍ തന്നെ പേപ്പര്‍ വരണം എന്നും അതിന് പകരമുള്ള ഒരു
> > സിസ്റ്റം ഇല്ലെന്നുമാണ് ചില സുഹൃത്തുക്കള്‍ പറഞ്ഞത്. Open access
> > journals- എന്ന് പറഞ്ഞു കേട്ടതില്‍ പലതിനും impact factor ഇല്ല എന്നും
> > പറയുന്നു.
> >
> > ശരിക്കും ഇതില്‍ നടക്കുന്ന പ്രവര്‍ത്തനങ്ങള്‍ എന്തൊക്കെയാണ്? ഇതിന്റെ
> > ഗുണനിലവാര മാനദണ്ഡങ്ങള്‍ എന്തൊക്കെയാണ്? ഇതിന് വേണ്ടി നമുക്ക്
> > എന്തെങ്കിലും ചെയ്യാനാവുമോ? ആര്‍ക്കെങ്കിലും എന്തെങ്കിലും ധാരണ
> > ഉണ്ടെങ്കില്‍ പറഞ്ഞു തരാമോ?
>
> We had already started a discussion on setting up an Open Access Journal
> here
>
> https://www.loomio.org/d/4pYEaBTC/research-in-the-disciplines-of-science-technology-and-medicine-stm
>
> Me, Manoj and Ranjith P started discussing the initial concepts for open
> access journal and
>
> Me and Manoj met CV Radhakrishnan sir to discuss this as he had proposed
> implementing an Open Access publishing system as a mediawiki extension.
>
> He suggested we use Open Journal System (OJS) as everything is already
> in place technically. They use it for the journal they run.
>
> https://pkp.sfu.ca/ojs/
>
> As I look at it, the issue is as simple as hosting infrastructure for
> academic publishing, similar to how we run a diaspora pod at poddery.com
>
> Our role would be installing maintaining the service. We have to get a
> good VPS and install OJS. Find funds for VPS hosting. We can ask people
> who publish to pay, either themselves or universities. Prof Sanjay
> Shitole from Bomaby has offered to help with finding reviewers.
>
> The big challenge will be talking to universities and having them accept
> our journal. We need to get some good papers from established scientists
> from different fields to publish in our journals.
>
> So we need a team that will setup and maintain technical aspect of the
> journal. For publishing and reviewing aspects we already have good people.
>
> Please reply if you want to be a part of the team. You can help in
> different ways like we did savepoddery.com
>
>
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