[smc-discuss] [FEC:141791] malayalam word for gender nonconforming children

Sun May 3 17:28:00 PDT 2015

Great to know that things like this are happening in my alma mater. Thanks
for the update Deepa Teacher
On May 3, 2015 7:36 PM, "Deepa P.Gopinath" <deepapgopinath at gmail.com> wrote:

> Like to share the experience i had while having a discussion on
> transgender issues and interaction with gender and sexual minorities in our
> college(NSS camp). We started with a discussion on sex, sexuality and
> gender led by Anil (Chilla). The students interacted effectively and
> started discussing very openly without any inhibitions. This was followed
> by the session on transgenders and sexual minorities, led by the community
> members, who visited the camp. It was a good experience for the students to
> interact with LGBT community members and hear their experiences and issues.
> The session had a long lasting impact in their social perspective. Later
> these students took initiative in helping Anil, in the digitization and
> data visualization of transgender survey, conducted by the social justice
> department, coordinated by Sangama. What surprised  me was that, they took
> pain to organize a session on transgender issues in their mega
> intercollegiate cultural festival 'Dhwani'. Kalki Subramaniam, Sonu
> Niranjan, Syam Seethal, Christy (TG community members). Rajesh
> Sreenivas(Sangama) and Anil took part. The CETAA hall (one of the main
> halls in CET) was full, people were standing and sitting on floor. (Usually
> when conduct discussions, the most challenging task is to make hall atleast
> half occupied). That was rated by the students as the best session in the
> ethics part of Dhwani. The community members also found it very valuable,
> to interact with a such a large section of youngsters. Kalki and Syam
> stayed back and was dancing with the students in the music programme of
> lagori band in the evening. They enjoyed a lot in the festive mood with the
> students. It was great to see the otherwise marginalized community, being
> in the mainstream, dancing and singing hand in hand and enjoying together.
> Later i found that, after these interactions, it was easy to have
> discussion on gender issues. May be because, with the interaction with LGBT
> community,  it is easy to break the rigid binary norms on male and female
> constructs.
> On 03-May-2015 5:01 pm, "Deepa P.Gopinath" <deepapgopinath at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> 'ലിംഗാനുവർത്തിയല്ലാത്ത' മതിയാവും എന്നു തോന്നുന്നു.
>>
>> വിമത ലൈംഗികത transgenders ന് ഉപയോഗിക്കാം എന്ന് തോന്നുന്നു.  Transgenders
>> ഉം gender nonconforming children ഉം തമ്മില്  വ്യത്യാസം ഉണ്ട്. Gender
>> nonconforming children have confusions about their identity, where as a
>> transgender person identifies themselves in a gender opposite to their
>> biological sex.
>> On 03-May-2015 3:54 pm, "sooraj kenoth" <soorajkenoth at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ഇന്ന് ഫേസ് ബുക്കില്‍ Divya D V എന്നയാളുടെ പോസ്റ്റില്‍ കണ്ട വാക്കാണിത്
>>> ആണിത്
>>>
>>> വിമതലൈംഗികത
>>>
>>> നിലവിലുള്ള വ്യവസ്ഥിതിയെ അംഗീകരിക്കാത്തവര്‍ അല്ലേ വിമതര്‍, അപ്പോ
>>> വിമതലൈംഗികത യോജിക്കുന്ന ഒന്നാവില്ലേ?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2015-05-03 0:01 GMT+05:30 ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) <viswaprabha at gmail.com
>>> >:
>>> > അനുസരണയും അനുവർത്തനവും തമ്മിൽ നേരിയ വ്യത്യാസമുണ്ടു്.
>>> >
>>> > ഒരു സരണി (വഴി) മിക്കവാറും നിർബന്ധിതമായിത്തന്നെ പിന്തുടരുന്ന കൃത്യമാണു്
>>> > അനുസരണം.
>>> > ഒരു വൃത്തിയ്ക്കു് (നിർബന്ധിതമാകാതെത്തന്നെ ) ഒത്തുപോകുന്ന നയമാണു്
>>> അനുവർത്തനം.
>>> >
>>> > അതിനാൽ, 'ലിംഗാനുവർത്തിയല്ലാത്ത' എന്നതാവും കൂടുതൽ യോജിച്ചതു്.
>>> >
>>> > -വിശ്വം
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 2 May 2015 at 15:31, DrRajasekharan S <drrajanonline at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> ‘ലിംഗാനുവർത്തിയല്ലാത്ത’ മതിയാവും ദീപ. ‘ലിംഗത്വ’പ്രശ്നം അതിൽ
>>> >> ഉള്ളടങ്ങിക്കൊള്ളും.
>>> >>
>>> >> 2015-05-02 15:02 GMT+05:30 Deepa P.Gopinath <deepapgopinath at gmail.com
>>> >:
>>> >> > ലിംഗത്വ അനുവർത്തിയല്ലാത്ത may be better I feel.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Few points to note :
>>> >> >
>>> >> > When we say 'gender nonconforming children', we refer to children
>>> in the
>>> >> > adolescence (not small children)
>>> >> > Gender nonconforming children do not question the existing gender
>>> norms.
>>> >> > they like to be identified themselves in the gender norms which is
>>> >> > opposite
>>> >> > to their biological sex. When I, (who performs as a teacher in my
>>> >> > profession), wear jeans and short top in college without shawls, it
>>> is
>>> >> > because of 2 reasons -  it is convenient to me and it is to assert
>>> my
>>> >> > right
>>> >> > to wear a dress of my choice (questioning the existing norms). But a
>>> >> > girl
>>> >> > who belongs to gender nonconforming  category do this to be
>>> identified
>>> >> > as a
>>> >> > boy, because she is comfortable with the mind set of a boy.
>>> >> > Their wish to be identified in the other sex is not from any
>>> >> > conditioning or
>>> >> > thought process, it may perhaps be partly biological (I suppose)
>>> >> > The problem is basically with the gender binary norms we have and
>>> the
>>> >> > rigidity in it.
>>> >> > We have to reconstruct the whole gender norms so as to clearly
>>> place all
>>> >> > these identities.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > So let us start a discussion on these. .
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Attaching some documents that I came across related to the problems
>>> of
>>> >> > gender non conforming children.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > 2015-05-02 9:44 GMT+05:30 Kevin Siji <kevinsiji at gmail.com>:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> 2015-05-02 7:41 GMT+05:30 Anivar Aravind <anivar.aravind at gmail.com
>>> >:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 10:42 PM, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ)
>>> >> >>> <viswaprabha at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> ലിംഗാനുസാരിയല്ലാത്ത-
>>> >> >>>> ലിംഗാനുവർത്തിയല്ലാത്ത-
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> +1 വിശ്വം
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> gender nonconforming children = ലിംഗാനുസാരിയല്ലാത്ത കുട്ടികള്‍
>>> >> >>> gender nonconformity = ലിംഗാനുവര്‍ത്തിയല്ലായ്മ
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> ലിംഗാനുവര്‍ത്തി +1
>>> >> >> ഏതെങ്കിലും ഒന്നുപയോഗിക്കൂ. അനുസാരി / അനുവർത്തി
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> --
>>> >> >> Regards,
>>> >> >> Kevin
>>> >> >>
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>>> >> >
>>> >> >
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