[smc-discuss] ചില്ലക്ഷരങ്ങളുടെ രാഷ്ട്രീയം

Jayadevan Raja jayadevanraja at gmail.com
Fri Jan 21 10:11:20 PST 2011


Tamil Nadu government did that on Flimsy grounds. Just like the central
government, Tamil Nadu government too piggybacked on ASCII. They didn't make
it from scratch. And they too followed the cathedral-style development (c.f.
"The Cathedral and the Bazaar").

The challenges faced while replacing an existing Goliath (symbolising ANSI
or the Unicode consortium, which follows the cathedral style) will be very
high for our new David (Symbolising a free standard by a bazaar-style,
socially committed team). But the benefits will be really high - a neater
and cleaner standard.

2011/1/21 കെവി & സിജി <kevinsiji at gmail.com>

> 2011/1/21 Praveen A <pravi.a at gmail.com>
>
> 2011, ജനുവരി 19 8:34 വൈകുന്നേരം നു, കെവി & സിജി <kevinsiji at gmail.com>
>> എഴുതി:
>> >> Only if we develop something, can we develop that optimised for our
>> uses.
>> >> For this, wouldn't it be a good idea if FSF comes up with a better
>> standard?
>> >
>> > I support this suggestion.
>> >
>> > Kevin
>>
>> How many would join in, if we were to start a new community managed
>> standard for character encoding where every language community would
>> have a final say and some US companies?
>
>
> why *some* US companies?
>
>
>> It would be based on unicode
>> 5.0 and any new changes would go through community process.
>
>
> This is like eating the dirt unicode has already produced.
>
>
>
>> Those who
>> are OK with unicode 5.1+ can continue with Unicode. It would be a fork
>> of unicode, plus a community controlled update process where internet
>> technology ie, anyone with an internet connection can participate, for
>> those who do not have an internet connection, we can think of
>> simulatneously hosting sessions in universities or as true
>> collaboration those wo have an internet connection can share it with
>> thier neighbours ans friends to help them participate in this process.
>>
>
> This will again replicate the process unicode has used. All those who have
> internet will get the advantage. The process should be completely out of
> internet, and should be via academic channels only.
>
>
>> No company with deep pockets who can afford to send people to silicon
>> valley for unicode meetinngs would be considered superior than someone
>> who lives in a remote village in Kerala who can access a computer in
>> an akshaya center or a public library. There would not be huge
>> membership fees, anyone interested in participation would be allowed.
>> What would be the guidelines? We don't know yet. We will have to build
>> it. It would not be accepted by anyone easily. We would be running it
>> on our own systems, we will have to have converters between unicode
>> and our encoding (say common code or common code technology
>> collective), well you need that anyway between unicode 5.1 and unicode
>> 5.0. We will fight it out and see who wins. We would not accept any
>> monopoly on it like what unicode enjoys - we will show the world that
>> there is an alternative to monopoly and corporate control over our
>> standards and language.
>>
>> How many of you would join such a struggle? It would not be easy, it
>> would be long, but one thing is sure, we would be giving control of
>> our language back to its right ful owners, the people. We may even
>> fail completely, but we would be happy that we fought for our
>> language, we tried, we fought for something we believe to be just, may
>> be someone in future seeing our courage would take it forward and
>> bring victory for our language and people.
>>
>> Still looks like a fairy tail? History is what we make it. We don't
>> have to accept any injustice or dictatorship (at least for technology,
>> for everything else it is still a long struggle).
>>
>
> There is history in front of us. Tamil Nadu government rejected the ISCII
> encoding and created their own encoding. Gov has made it mandatory for the
> companies to use this encoding to get approved by gov. It was a real win
> they have made over Hindi lobby.
>
> So, I feel it takes some kind of power, gov or community or both.
>
> Kevin
>
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Thanking You,
Jayadevan V
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