[smc-discuss] freezing issue discuss Digest, Vol 43, Issue 15
DON DOMINIC MATHEW
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Wed Mar 12 23:59:58 PDT 2014
Firefox getting freezes in Ubuntu 13.04 while reading malayalm websites
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> 1. ZWS vs ZWNJ for Malayalam input (Baiju M)
> 2. Re: ZWS vs ZWNJ for Malayalam input (Santhosh Thottingal)
> 3. Re: ZWS vs ZWNJ for Malayalam input (Baiju M)
> 4. Re: ZWS vs ZWNJ for Malayalam input (Jishnu)
> 5. Re: ZWS vs ZWNJ for Malayalam input (Santhosh Thottingal)
> 6. Re: ZWS vs ZWNJ for Malayalam input (anish patil)
> 7. Re: ZWS vs ZWNJ for Malayalam input (Santhosh Thottingal)
> 8. Re: ZWS vs ZWNJ for Malayalam input (Baiju M)
> 9. Re: ZWS vs ZWNJ for Malayalam input (Santhosh Thottingal)
> 10. Re: ZWS vs ZWNJ for Malayalam input (Baiju M)
> 11. Re: Nithya Malayalam Keyboard Layout (was Re: Dot-Reph
> character in the keyboard layout) (sunu)
> 12. Re: Nithya Malayalam Keyboard Layout (was Re: Dot-Reph
> character in the keyboard layout) (sunu)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:20:22 +0530
> From: Baiju M <baiju.m.mail at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [smc-discuss] ZWS vs ZWNJ for Malayalam input
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> Hi,
>
> Is there any usecase in Malayalam input where ZWS is required ?
> In m17n input method for Inscript 1 and Inscript 2, ZWS is not given
> whereas I can see it in the XKB file for Malayalam input (Inscript).
> Also Jishnu has added ZWS to new Android Indic Keyabord
> (It is based on XKB ?)
>
> I read these documents about ZWS:
> http://unicode.org/versions/Unicode5.2.0/ch16.pdf
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-width_space
>
> But I don't see any reference to Malayalam use cases there.
>
>
> Regards,
> Baiju M
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:22:55 +0530
> From: Santhosh Thottingal <santhosh.thottingal at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [smc-discuss] ZWS vs ZWNJ for Malayalam input
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> On Wednesday, March 12, 2014, Baiju M <baiju.m.mail at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Hi,
> >
> > Is there any usecase in Malayalam input where ZWS is required ?
> >
>
> I am not aware of any cases we need ZWS.
>
> Santhosh
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> From: Baiju M <baiju.m.mail at gmail.com>
> To: Jishnu Mohan <jishnu7 at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [smc-discuss] ZWS vs ZWNJ for Malayalam input
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> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Santhosh Thottingal
> <santhosh.thottingal at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, March 12, 2014, Baiju M <baiju.m.mail at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Is there any usecase in Malayalam input where ZWS is required ?
> >
> >
> > I am not aware of any cases we need ZWS.
>
> Jishnu, I have reopened this issue to remove ZWS from Indic Keyboard
> layout.
>
> https://github.com/smc/Indic-Keyboard/issues/2
>
> Probably we should send a patch to XKB also to remove ZWS from the input
> file.
>
> Regards,
> Baiju M
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:32:20 +0530
> From: Jishnu <jishnu7 at gmail.com>
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> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Baiju M <baiju.m.mail at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Also Jishnu has added ZWS to new Android Indic Keyabord
> > (It is based on XKB ?)
> >
> Yes. It is based on XKB. XKB layout has ZWSP mapped to AB02.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Jishnu
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> From: Santhosh Thottingal <santhosh.thottingal at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion list of Swathanthra Malayalam Computing
> <discuss at lists.smc.org.in>
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> On Wednesday, March 12, 2014, Jishnu <jishnu7 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Baiju M <baiju.m.mail at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','baiju.m.mail at gmail.com');>
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Also Jishnu has added ZWS to new Android Indic Keyabord
> >> (It is based on XKB ?)
> >>
> > Yes. It is based on XKB. XKB layout has ZWSP mapped to AB02.
> >
>
> XKB need to be fixed. It is not same as Inscirpt 1 standard or the inscript
> keyboard in m17n.
>
> Santhosh
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> From: anish patil <anish.developer at gmail.com>
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> Hi
>
> >>XKB need to be fixed. It is not same as Inscirpt 1 standard or the
> inscript keyboard in m17n.
>
> What are the limitations of XKB Malayalam, any ideas?
> One limitation of XKB is, i suppose it does not support conjuncts, are
> there any limitations?
>
> --
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> From: Santhosh Thottingal <santhosh.thottingal at gmail.com>
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> On 03/12/2014 09:50 AM, anish patil wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > >>XKB need to be fixed. It is not same as Inscirpt 1 standard or the
> > inscript keyboard in m17n.
> >
> > What are the limitations of XKB Malayalam, any ideas?
> > One limitation of XKB is, i suppose it does not support conjuncts, are
> > there any limitations?
>
> For 1:1 keyboards I don't see any limitation. We are discussing about a
> key mapping.
>
> Santhosh
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 10:15:22 +0530
> From: Baiju M <baiju.m.mail at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion list of Swathanthra Malayalam Computing
> <discuss at lists.smc.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [smc-discuss] ZWS vs ZWNJ for Malayalam input
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> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Santhosh Thottingal
> <santhosh.thottingal at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, March 12, 2014, Jishnu <jishnu7 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Baiju M <baiju.m.mail at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Also Jishnu has added ZWS to new Android Indic Keyabord
> >>> (It is based on XKB ?)
> >>
> >> Yes. It is based on XKB. XKB layout has ZWSP mapped to AB02.
> >
> >
> > XKB need to be fixed. It is not same as Inscirpt 1 standard or the
> inscript
> > keyboard in m17n.
>
> I have attached a patch here to remove ZWS from XKB keyboard map for
> Malayalam.
> Please review it. Any idea where I can send this patch ?
>
> Also I noticed that ZWNJ is included in two places: "BKSL" and "period"
> So, to make it similar to what is there in m17n, I removed ZWNJ from
> "period" also.
>
> Regards,
> Baiju M
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> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 10:20:14 +0530
> From: Santhosh Thottingal <santhosh.thottingal at gmail.com>
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> On 03/12/2014 10:15 AM, Baiju M wrote:
> >
> > I have attached a patch here to remove ZWS from XKB keyboard map for
> Malayalam.
> > Please review it. Any idea where I can send this patch ?
> > Also I noticed that ZWNJ is included in two places: "BKSL" and "period"
> > So, to make it similar to what is there in m17n, I removed ZWNJ from
> > "period" also.
>
> Yet to review and test, but
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=Server%2FInput%2FXKBis
> the place to send the patch
>
> Santhosh
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 10:24:36 +0530
> From: Baiju M <baiju.m.mail at gmail.com>
> To: Santhosh Thottingal <santhosh.thottingal at gmail.com>, Discussion
> list of Swathanthra Malayalam Computing <discuss at lists.smc.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [smc-discuss] ZWS vs ZWNJ for Malayalam input
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> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Santhosh Thottingal
> <santhosh.thottingal at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 03/12/2014 10:15 AM, Baiju M wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I have attached a patch here to remove ZWS from XKB keyboard map for
> >> Malayalam.
> >> Please review it. Any idea where I can send this patch ?
> >> Also I noticed that ZWNJ is included in two places: "BKSL" and "period"
> >> So, to make it similar to what is there in m17n, I removed ZWNJ from
> >> "period" also.
> >
> >
> > Yet to review and test, but
> >
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=Server%2FInput%2FXKBis
> > the place to send the patch
>
> Okay, I will wait for your review and test before submitting the patch.
>
> Regards,
> Baiju M
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 13:39:57 +0530
> From: sunu <suneeshtr at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion list of Swathanthra Malayalam Computing
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